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Post by Robin Buscato on May 22, 2012 17:38:04 GMT -5
To be fair, Sonny didn't know he was shooting his son; he thought he was shooting a traitor to the organization. Johnny knew exactly who he was shooting. Oh - how this saddens me. If Lulu is going to rehabilitate this: she's got her work cut out for her... You know, something tells me that my Anthony is not really gone!
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californianpagan
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Post by californianpagan on May 23, 2012 11:47:34 GMT -5
4 bullets? He could be gone. I can see Jonny's point. It's not like the family is normal. They don't get into screaming matches over Thanksgiving dinner and then forget about it a few days later. They all have something very wrong with them that they act out in a violent way. I can see why Jonny killed Anthony. He's been progressing to this point since The Ronny took over. I'm just glad Jonny killed him rather than Sonny. Guess Jonny is going to be more of a Lorenzo character. Has two defined sides to him.
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Post by Robin Buscato on May 23, 2012 11:53:47 GMT -5
4 bullets? He could be gone. I can see Jonny's point. It's not like the family is normal. They don't get into screaming matches over Thanksgiving dinner and then forget about it a few days later. They all have something very wrong with them that they act out in a violent way. I can see why Jonny killed Anthony. He's been progressing to this point since The Ronny took over. I'm just glad Jonny killed him rather than Sonny. Guess Jonny is going to be more of a Lorenzo character. Has two defined sides to him. I wonder if RC is setting up a good mob (Corinthos) vs bad mob (Zacharro) scenario. I see your point about the Zacharros: they (AZ, Claudia, and JZ) have something a little bit "off." Reminds me a little of Catherine (remember she had twins: one good/ one bad) in East of Eden. Steinbeck described her as congenitally missing a conscience like some are missing appendages. Sigh.... I don't want Johnny to be unredeemable; unfortunately, he's been working up to this since the Lulu break-up. The writers have slowly but surely darkened him.
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Post by Robin Buscato on May 23, 2012 11:57:48 GMT -5
Soap operas in general will either make a character redeemable or kill him off: they are "old hollywood" in that tendency, which is part of why I love them: the villain must always die - and there must be a villain.
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Post by californianpagan on May 23, 2012 12:07:20 GMT -5
I think they progressed him. His only two options were getting out or getting better at his job. He still has a strong conscience. But also a strong survival instinct and an amazing ability to adapt. Getting a crazy woman to take the blame is despicable yet genius considering it was so spur of the moment. IMO, The Ronny did go too far with Jonny way too fast. Making Claudia his mother excelled the crazy. Jonny shouldn't be this bitter and vengeful almost overnight. Yeah, trauma can do that but he also ruined the character for ppl who what Jonny to have a heart and be mob lite.
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Post by Robin Buscato on May 23, 2012 12:18:05 GMT -5
See - for me Johnny is like a young Luke: opportunistic and morally-sketchy with an occasional exaggerated sense of fair play - all covering a great big altruistic heart. JZ can still be this if the writers choose to redeem him - but it's got to be at the hands of a good woman for the scenario to play out like a good soap should. Unless it's Lulu - I don't see anyone on the canvass capable of handling this task. It could be that he is redeemed enough to die and be mourned. I don't know - I want GH to end with Lante as a couple, but if RC wrote the kind of story I'm describing, I might change my mind. I mean if Luke can be redeemed after the rape, JZ can be redeemed after shooting a man who was brutal to his mother/sister - and to him (remember AZ shot the woman whom Johnny thought was his mother right before his very eye...).
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Post by californianpagan on May 23, 2012 15:23:44 GMT -5
As far as Papa, I hate he's off the show but in context, Jonny did no more than put down a rabid dog. I don't think Jonny's has to be redeemed for this. But then I also accept ( and like the fact) they live outside the law and their values aren't mine. If redemption has to come from a woman... I'm actually pretty tried of that. If he needs an outside influence I'd like to see a child like Emma, not Emma though. Maybe when the entire OLTL cast comes over it can be (surprise surprise we found) Hope.
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Post by whatever51 on May 23, 2012 16:56:17 GMT -5
I'll miss Bruce Weitz but I have no problem with Johnny killing PZ,he was defending himself IMO.I do hate the fact that the writer's have decided to make him the shooter that killed Hope and Cole.
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Post by madamerose55 on May 24, 2012 2:42:12 GMT -5
love johnny too, and I hope they make this all a dream like they did on Dallas, one season, otherwise Johnny will not be able to be redeemed. please writers do not sacrifice johnny, he has a huge fan base. do not destroy this character
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Post by jackaled on May 24, 2012 5:18:01 GMT -5
I don;t the shooting make him irredeemable, look at Sonny and Jason but the sleeping with a mentally ill woman, (whom he knew was mentally ill at the time) then manipulating her to take the blame for killing Hope and Cole..that looks bad..Kate for Johnny is what Karen is for Sonny, some people have never gotten over Sonny drugging Karen and sleeping with her..and some won;t get over johnnhy using a mentally ill patient.
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